Curse

Drizzitdude · Jul 17, 2008, 01:39 PM // 13:39

I already dumped endure pain-_- And BTW I have had this game for about 2 years. I just havent played it for about a year :P . And belive me when I say that i know tactics, and how useful thery can be. I use tactics skills like there is no freakin tomarrow in PvP but in PvE I PREFER attack skills. And leperchaun I am in the end of game so ya my party kinda wipes alot

.....not something i am proud of

. Anyway as i said before the healing sig isnt so hot of a move when its attribute rank is only lv 7 (my healing prayers rank right now, and all i have 2 spare) I could always get a some runes to boost that but I already did that for strength and swordsmanship so My health has been decreased enough already.

Anyway It is probly my pure stubbornness that is keeping me using my healing breeze

.Oh and PS age ya you do. you get it in pre. So there. dont belive me look it up.......On second thought... Here. I did it for you. http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Healing_Breeze

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Originally Posted by JDRyder

I h8 to be the a** but as some1 that has played monk for a few years, Healing breeze sucks and you dont need, its not even useful. Why did you even come here and ask if your not going to listen to people, some of whom are the best players in the game and have played the game a lot longer then you have.

[build=OQASEZKH91vAuoCQrd9q] imo

Ya you are being an a$$. In case you havent noticed I HAVE taken advicce from people. i have even said thank you to everyone who has given me advice. The only thing is I want to keep healing breeze. Is that so wrong? BTW I didnt even come here asking for advice I came here to post what I thought would be a good sword build ( i was horribly mistaken and everyone helped me realize that) for other people to see. I am really glad that I did get advice because I have changed my build alot since then. So I would like to thank everyone *(again) for giving me advice that I (grudgingly) took, and your help i used to make myself a better build. Thank you.

Cebe · Jul 17, 2008, 02:01 PM // 14:01

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

I could always get a some runes to boost that but I already did that for strength and swordsmanship so My health has been decreased enough already.

You've not said anything about the runes your using.

You know you don't need to sacrifice any health for runes? Minor runes on Warriors are perfectly satisfactory. Let's look at Swordsmanship for example. You do 6 more damage with Galrath Slash if you use a Superior Rune instead of a Minor Rune...but you lose 75HP. Is it worth it? No. The additional HP for a Warrior is much more valuable, especially if your party wipes as often as you say it does - every little helps.

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

So I would like to thank everyone *(again) for giving me advice that I grudginly took and sed to make myself a better build. Thank you.

A player who seeks guidance and takes advice on board will always go much further than a player who doesn't. Now if we can just get you to drop Healing Breeze...

Drizzitdude · Jul 17, 2008, 02:23 PM // 14:23

lol nevar! Drizzt Do' Urden

Says [healing breeze] pwns and so does Guenwhyvar!(the panther)

You cannot beat their combined might!

Ok srry about that i am usin both a major strength and minor swordsmanship rune. how else would i get my stuff higher? oh wait helmets....duh. HEAD SMACK

BTW drizzt could kill every player in this game all at once in under 5 minutes. Drizzt Do' urden FTW!

Age · Jul 17, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

I already dumped endure pain-_- And BTW I have had this game for about 2 years. I just havent played it for about a year :P . And belive me when I say that i know tactics, and how useful thery can be. I use tactics skills like there is no freakin tomarrow in PvP but in PvE I PREFER attack skills. And leperchaun I am in the end of game so ya my party kinda wipes alot

.....not something i am proud of

. Anyway as i said before the healing sig isnt so hot of a move when its attribute rank is only lv 7 (my healing prayers rank right now, and all i have 2 spare) I could always get a some runes to boost that but I already did that for strength and swordsmanship so My health has been decreased enough already.

Anyway It is probly my pure stubbornness that is keeping me using my healing breeze

.Oh and PS age ya you do. you get it in pre. So there. dont belive me look it up.......On second thought... Here. I did it for you. http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Healing_Breeze

Wrong only Monks get it as I have 4 Monks and 2 W/Mo I put through the game and looked at this wiki first.It is called the Monk test no others get it.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Monk_Test

I don't know why you came here asking for advice as you aren't listening to any of what we saying healing Breeze is bad go with Signet.Look at the quest in your link The Monk test.

Crom The Pale · Jul 17, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09

If your having fun, then stick with what you have.

But if you really wish to have the best builds possible then you need to listen to ALL of the advise your given. Some of us will be wrong, but when ALL of us agree on something you reallys should take note.

There are several reasons why ALL of us are against using Healing Breeze on a warrior. One fact is that its an enchantment, so it can be stripped or worse yet [shatter enchantment]. Next its a "heal over time" skill that means in order for it to work you need to stop taking damage while its running to get to max HP within its time frame. That means if your taking(and I'm not certain on the math since I don't know how much you run in healing) that if HB heals you for 12hp every second if your taking more than 12dmg each second its useless. On the other hand [healing [email protected]] will grant you an instant heal, far more than the damage you will take in its 2 second cast time. Infact if your dead set on using a monk skill then take [protective spirit] and you can spam healing signet with 0 concern about the -40armor.

NOTE* Since my post here was DELETED...ok rightly so....I created a thread in OffTopic for Best RPG Fantasy Charr discusions

Shaz · Jul 17, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Warrior don't need any self heal on their bar in PvE as your monks will always be with you.

Healing breeze is bad because it cost 10 energy and doesnt even heal all that much compare to other. Let say you have 12sword/8strength/10healing as your attribute spread. Healing breeze would only heal 14hp per second at 7 regen for 15 seconds. Vigorous Spirit would heal for 15hp per hit for 30 seconds and cost only 5 energy, and under Frenzy or other 33% IAS sword attack rate is at .89 sec per hit. I don't advise you to use either or any self healing, just putting that out there so you can see HB isn't the best to use.

But if you insist on a self heal with a Prophecies only on a W/Mo I'd go with Word of Healing for fun

. At 10 Healing it heal for 88 when >50% health and 160 when <50% health every 3 sec for 5 energy.

[Word of Healing][sever artery][gash][final thrust][frenzy][sprint][Resurrection Signet] last one can be optional.

Didn't read the whole thread so maybe this is already posted.

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Ok srry about that i am usin both a major strength and minor swordsmanship rune. how else would i get my stuff higher? oh wait helmets....duh. HEAD SMACK

Yes, helmet is better than a major strength. Though with prophecies only skills I don't see why you would need a strength helm. The only time I use a strength helm is when I run Hammer with enraging charge (not a prophecies skill) for +4 adrenaline on hit breakpoint, 12+1 Hammer 12+1+1 Strength.

Drizzitdude · Jul 20, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by Age

Wrong only Monks get it as I have 4 Monks and 2 W/Mo I put through the game and looked at this wiki first.It is called the Monk test no others get it.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Monk_Test

I don't know why you came here asking for advice as you aren't listening to any of what we saying healing Breeze is bad go with Signet.Look at the quest in your link The Monk test.

SO, I guess you were right I dont get it in the pre but i still get it pretty damn early in the game. There, you win. What do you want a cookie? Now can we please get back to the greatly important topic of who would win in a fight :P

Edited by Celestial Beaver: Removed reference to deleted post. Please keep all discussion on topic.

Zeniers · Jul 21, 2008, 03:51 AM // 03:51

Why don't you use a Resurrection Signet instead of Resurrect to save Energy? I guess it depends on the place you're going and the amount of bosses?

Drizzitdude · Jul 21, 2008, 04:58 PM // 16:58

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Originally Posted by Zeniers

Why don't you use a Resurrection Signet instead of Resurrect to save Energy? I guess it depends on the place you're going and the amount of bosses?

I dont use ressurect I use rebirth.And when your a warrior energy could not mean less to you.

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

SO, I guess you were right I dont get it in the pre but i still get it pretty damn early in the game. There, you win. What do you want a cookie? Now can we please get back to the greatly important topic of who would win in a fight :P

Edited by Celestial Beaver: Removed reference to deleted post. Please keep all discussion on topic.

Aww that was a fun conversation, oh well, life goes on.

Bob Grunter · Jul 22, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

id recommend getting another expansion lol

Age · Jul 22, 2008, 03:11 AM // 03:11

I would get a focus icon as well if your energy dips below 10 rebirth is useless as result of -60dp.That is why you don't use breeze.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jul 22, 2008, 07:42 AM // 07:42

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

And when your a warrior energy could not mean less to you.

I disagree.

[Enraging Charge][Crushing Blow][Conjure Flame]["For Great Justice!"]["Finish Him!"][Shock][You Move Like A Dwarf][Cyclone Axe][Bull's Strike] etc.

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Originally Posted by Age

I would get a focus icon as well if your energy dips below 10 rebirth is useless as result of -60dp.That is why you don't use breeze.

You shouldn't use breeze because it's a crap heal and doesn't help you when you need it. Energy restrictions due to DP is just another reason.

Age · Jul 22, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

That is what I said about breeze as healing sig requires none ..

Drizzitdude · Jul 22, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Seriously enough! I already said no more discussion on healing breeze! Yes it may be crap but I am stubborn and refuse to listen to that. No more discussion on healing breeze. Also why did you put ele skills in there? warriors have 20 energy(normally). Ele skills are a waste when you have that little energy. Also, Any warrior who is focusing on any one weapon type doesnt need to worry about energy useage, besides using it for the tactics, rez and the ocassional energy using attack. So what i am saying is this. Yes energy has its uses as a warrior but it isnt somthing to really focus on. Thats why I dumped [warriors endurance] because I felt that it was a waste of a skill slot. Also Right now with MY build I really dont need to worry about energy usuage. I dont usually die and dont need to worry about DP, hell, usually I am the one who has to and up retreating and using rebirth on everyone after they all die. Please can we just drop the debate on healng breeze? It is what I "PREFER", it may not be the smartest move but it is the one I am most comfortable with. I will go ahead and compare a lv 7 sig with a lv 7 breeze and see which one I prefer more okay? once again I would like to thank most of you for your helpful advice and listening (even if you disagree) to what i had to say. Thank you.

Crom The Pale · Jul 23, 2008, 03:45 AM // 03:45

In the end this is a game and its all about having fun.

If you are having fun use any build you like.

On the other hand if you wish to know what is the best, most efficient builds available to you then you really do have to listen to what we are telling you.

War/eles dish out some of the best damage in the game and are feared in PvP for good reason.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jul 23, 2008, 05:03 AM // 05:03

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

Also why did you put ele skills in there? warriors have 20 energy(normally). Ele skills are a waste when you have that little energy.

I didn't put random energy skills in, I put useful energy skills in. Shock is very powerful if you use it correctly and Conjure X only needs to be casted once a minute.

MagicalHobo · Jul 23, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33

The Reason behind using the Conjures:

Now, the first part before when I used, "For Great Justice!" was just [Dragon Slash] Spam with the following build:
[build prof=W strength=12 swordsmanship=13][For Great Justice][Enraging Charge][Flail][Dragon Slash][/build]

Now, the part after when I used, "For Great Justice!" was the same DSlash build but with a Conjure
[build prof=W/E strength=12 swordsmanship=13 airmagic=8][Conjure Lightning][For Great Justice][Enraging Charge][Flail][Dragon Slash][/build]

See the damage increase? And, like Marty said, they only need to be cast once a minute, which shouldn't bother your energy pool at all.

Drizzitdude · Jul 24, 2008, 01:43 AM // 01:43

Ok, please. I am having fun with my current build and i just beat proph campign yesterday (I got both the deldrimor and sword and sheild!). So please nothing more about replacing healing breeze. Yes conjure is a good skill, i wouldnt really know though because I have never picked an elementalist :P

PS I wish I could use dragon slash it saddens me knowing it cant be mine :'(

I should really go buy factions, That way I could at least AB you know? It sucks knowing my guildmates are going into battle (with you luxon guys) and all i can do is scimmage.

BTW what is with the rivalries between guilds in luxon and kurz anyway? some dude joined our guild and we scrimmaged but quit after he lost saying "you all act like luxons". I dont really get it. As far as i can tell the only cariation between the two is different equipment.

Anyway back on topic, I like the build I am using now. It works really well thx guys!

Age · Jul 24, 2008, 11:16 PM // 23:16

You will be a lot better if you got rid of healing breeze and you might want to think about NF for lions comfort if you don't like healing signet.

Bobby2 · Jul 25, 2008, 01:25 AM // 01:25

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Originally Posted by Drizzitdude

Ok, please. I am having fun with my current build and i just beat proph campign yesterday (I got both the deldrimor and sword and sheild!). So please nothing more about replacing healing breeze. Yes conjure is a good skill, i wouldnt really know though because I have never picked an elementalist :P

PS I wish I could use dragon slash it saddens me knowing it cant be mine :'(

I should really go buy factions, That way I could at least AB you know?

OMG TEH AB

You'd fit right in

Plenty of foolhardy (and largely incapable) Wammo's with EXACTLY your attitude! Join your brethren!